if you like the last four years, you would love the next four years under president obama because health insurance premiums will continue to go up. in fact, they'll go up another $2,500. up to 20 million americans could lose their health insurance as a result of obamacare. the debt would reach $20 trillion and middle class families would be hit with a $4,000 tax increase. that's not going to help us create jobs in our economy. that's not going to turn things around and it's not going to help household incomes rise. >> gretchen: okay. the guy on the other side of the fence who supports president obama, david axelrod, he says that your guy, romney's performance, was a performance. and that president obama will call him out next time. listen to this. >> will he change his approach for the next debate? there will be a rematch. will we see a more adepressive president? >> well, i know he's look very much forward to the debate on the 16th and i'll leave it to the theater critics to decide whether -- how his performance rates on that day. but i know this, he will come, he will make an honest ar